Saturn (7) : Checking with a natal chart
If Saturn (7) is related to an ascendant, we will predict that he/she is awkward, cautious. (It is outer characteristics which is easily seen.)
– If the native agrees or does not refuse that it means Saturn (7) is related to an ascendant or it is Tanu-lak or Tanu-sed.
The habit of over-thinking will be understood by the native but other people might not notice that.
(Inner and outer characteristics will be explained in details in the upcoming chapters.) **
From my past experience, if the native said yes, it would be absolutely correct.
If the native is not sure or try to explain, we can rather be sure that he is not over-thinking because he should know it by himself.
There are some cases that he is over-thinking but could not understand himself.
** For the case that Saturn (7) is not related with an ascendant, we should not make such a prediction in this step because it has more elaborated details.
We should not make such a prediction in this step because it has more elaborated details.
Saturn (7) : Checking Jupiter (5) with a natal chart
– Checking with a natal chart if Jupiter (5) is related to an ascendant, we shall make a prediction that his seniors would support him well.
-If the native agrees or does not refuse, it means that this ascendant is correct.
But if Jupiter (5) is not related with an ascendant, we predict that seniors will not support or help him.
He must rely heavily on himself. This issue is very accurate.
(Emphasizing that it means a help when he really needs.)
Also, when we ask that, we often receive a matching answer, since this is a normal issue and an easy matter to understand.
But in this case, Jupiter (5) is not Tanu-sed because it is an external factor. (We will discuss it later on.)
If we ask a native whether he has a virtue or is often making merits, we would not have a clear answer.
Usually, everybody understands himself as a good, moral person and is ashamed to tell the truth.
When we receive all this information, we should obviously evaluate that whether we rightly place that ascendant or not.
If it is not correct, we should move an ascendant (by time changing.) and those 2 cases are considered as just the beginning.
We have to to verify further information until it is clear and we are extremely confident.
But if we don’t have a clear answer yet. We should add a secondary characteristic onto it.
For example, asking that whether he is a proud person, always saving his own face or not (Sun (1)).
Whether his manner is good or not (Moon (2)), is he a stubborn person, or a rationalism or not.
The rationalism planet is Mars (3). If he is quietly stubborn, it will be a planet of Rahu (8).
Natal chart : Original horoscope (23)